Including Mini-DV clips in HD project

Post by 4***@gmail.com
Hello there,
I have some clips shot on mini-DV and captured with premiere pro I
would like to include in my HD project in premiere pro.
How would I go about doing this?
What's the best way to import/use clips shot in Mini-DV, and also from
a VCR, in an HD project?
Is there software I can buy to convert it?
Thanks!
Elliot

You don't shoot *in* mini-DV, you shoot *on* mini-DV. The mini-DV is a media
type (tape), which could have either standard definition or high definition
content on it. As to using standard or lower definition content as part of a
high-def project, others will have to more fully answer that question as I
have not done it (but I don't see why you couldn't). But you are never going
to *convert* that content into real HD content even if you can convert the
file types. Something about a silk purse out of a sow's ear........

Gary T

Ken Maltby

2007-12-23 15:46:05 UTC

You don't shoot *in* mini-DV, you shoot *on* mini-DV. The mini-DV is a
media type (tape), which could have either standard definition or high
definition content on it. As to using standard or lower definition content
as part of a high-def project, others will have to more fully answer that
question as I have not done it (but I don't see why you couldn't). But you
are never going to *convert* that content into real HD content even if you
can convert the file types. Something about a silk purse out of a sow's
ear........
Gary T

Good points, and with that said;

In many cases home editing will involve using video
and graphic material from all kinds of sources and often
include placing material of a smaller size onto/into a
background/base video of a larger size. There are even
tricks you can use, to make it seem natural for the change
in image quality inherent in mixing SD and HD material or
due to the scaling of a smaller resolution image to a larger
size, (even further reducing its relative resolution).

When looking for/at the HD Editing packages available
you should see that they often tout their ability to have
both SD and HD on the same timeline. This is true for
the inexpensive offerings from such as Ulead and Magix,
as well as those from Adobe and Sony.

Luck;
Ken

L.P.LePage

2007-12-23 17:39:59 UTC

You don't shoot *in* mini-DV, you shoot *on* mini-DV. The mini-DV is a
media type (tape), which could have either standard definition or high
definition content on it. As to using standard or lower definition
content as part of a high-def project, others will have to more fully
answer that question as I have not done it (but I don't see why you
couldn't). But you are never going to *convert* that content into real HD
content even if you can convert the file types. Something about a silk
purse out of a sow's ear........
Gary T

Good points, and with that said;
In many cases home editing will involve using video
and graphic material from all kinds of sources and often
include placing material of a smaller size onto/into a
background/base video of a larger size. There are even
tricks you can use, to make it seem natural for the change
in image quality inherent in mixing SD and HD material or
due to the scaling of a smaller resolution image to a larger
size, (even further reducing its relative resolution).
When looking for/at the HD Editing packages available
you should see that they often tout their ability to have
both SD and HD on the same timeline. This is true for
the inexpensive offerings from such as Ulead and Magix,
as well as those from Adobe and Sony.
Luck;
Ken

You should also take into consideration the Resolution and format of the HD
and SD clips.

HD(HDV) 1440x1080 16x9
HD(full) 1920x1080 16x9
SD(dv) 720x540 4x3 ( 16x9 is also available)
analog 640x480 4x3

What I do is to show a 4x3 SD clip as a Window inside a 16x9 HDV clip. look
cool.

G***@gmail.com

2007-12-23 19:19:31 UTC

Thanks for the feedback--here is what I did--let me know if this makes
sense.

Import Mini-DV SD footage into Premiere.

Export as 16:9 mpeg2, with 4x3 rectangle in 16:9 rectangle (no
cropping).

Use exported 16:9 mpeg2 of mini-dv in HDV project.

Is there a better/easier way to do incorporate 4x3 SD footage in an SD
project this?

What's the best way to ensure maximum quality from the SD exported as
MPEG2?

Thanks!

Elliot :)

You don't shoot *in* mini-DV, you shoot *on* mini-DV. The mini-DV is a
media type (tape), which could have either standard definition or high
definition content on it. As to using standard or lower definition
content as part of a high-def project, others will have to more fully
answer that question as I have not done it (but I don't see why you
couldn't). But you are never going to *convert* that content into real HD
content even if you can convert the file types. Something about a silk
purse out of a sow's ear........
Gary T

Good points, and with that said;
In many cases home editing will involve using video
and graphic material from all kinds of sources and often
include placing material of a smaller size onto/into a
background/base video of a larger size. There are even
tricks you can use, to make it seem natural for the change
in image quality inherent in mixing SD and HD material or
due to the scaling of a smaller resolution image to a larger
size, (even further reducing its relative resolution).
When looking for/at the HD Editing packages available
you should see that they often tout their ability to have
both SD and HD on the same timeline. This is true for
the inexpensive offerings from such as Ulead and Magix,
as well as those from Adobe and Sony.
Luck;
Ken

You should also take into consideration the Resolution and format of the HD
and SD clips.
HD(HDV) 1440x1080 16x9
HD(full) 1920x1080 16x9
SD(dv) 720x540 4x3 ( 16x9 is also available)
analog 640x480 4x3
What I do is to show a 4x3 SD clip as a Window inside a 16x9 HDV clip. look
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PTravel

2007-12-23 21:57:15 UTC

I'm not at all clear what you're trying to do. I edit in Premiere Pro CS3.
Premiere Pro accepts and can work with video in a variety of formats. To
include standard definition video in an HDV project, I'd simply import all
the video that I want to work, standard definition, HDV, stills, etc. in
Premiere Pro. Then I'd just drop what I want on the timeline. For SD, I'd
either increase the size and crop as necessary if I didn't want black bars
(for 4:3) or simply increase the size (16:9). Then I'd export the finished
project in whatever format was required for what I was doing (burning a DVD,
printing back to tape, uploading to the web, etc.)

<***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:439b719a-b071-46eb-8414-***@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
Thanks for the feedback--here is what I did--let me know if this makes
sense.

Import Mini-DV SD footage into Premiere.

Export as 16:9 mpeg2, with 4x3 rectangle in 16:9 rectangle (no
cropping).

Use exported 16:9 mpeg2 of mini-dv in HDV project.

Is there a better/easier way to do incorporate 4x3 SD footage in an SD
project this?

What's the best way to ensure maximum quality from the SD exported as
MPEG2?

Thanks!

Elliot :)

You don't shoot *in* mini-DV, you shoot *on* mini-DV. The mini-DV is a
media type (tape), which could have either standard definition or high
definition content on it. As to using standard or lower definition
content as part of a high-def project, others will have to more fully
answer that question as I have not done it (but I don't see why you
couldn't). But you are never going to *convert* that content into real HD
content even if you can convert the file types. Something about a silk
purse out of a sow's ear........
Gary T

Good points, and with that said;
In many cases home editing will involve using video
and graphic material from all kinds of sources and often
include placing material of a smaller size onto/into a
background/base video of a larger size. There are even
tricks you can use, to make it seem natural for the change
in image quality inherent in mixing SD and HD material or
due to the scaling of a smaller resolution image to a larger
size, (even further reducing its relative resolution).
When looking for/at the HD Editing packages available
you should see that they often tout their ability to have
both SD and HD on the same timeline. This is true for
the inexpensive offerings from such as Ulead and Magix,
as well as those from Adobe and Sony.
Luck;
Ken

You should also take into consideration the Resolution and format of the HD
and SD clips.
HD(HDV) 1440x1080 16x9
HD(full) 1920x1080 16x9
SD(dv) 720x540 4x3 ( 16x9 is also available)
analog 640x480 4x3
What I do is to show a 4x3 SD clip as a Window inside a 16x9 HDV clip. look
cool.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

d***@gmail.com

2007-12-24 01:46:24 UTC

Thanks! How do I change the SD clip's size to 16:9--I don't mind the
black bars on the sides.

Right now the SD clip is 4:3, but the HDV project is 16:9.

When I drop the 4:3 SD clip in the HDV project's timeline, it appears
as a small, centered box with black bars on the top, bottom, and
sides.

Thanks!

Then I'd export the finished

project in whatever format was required for what I was doing (burning a DVD,
printing back to tape, uploading to the web, etc.)
Thanks for the feedback--here is what I did--let me know if this makes
sense.
Import Mini-DV SD footage into Premiere.
Export as 16:9 mpeg2, with 4x3 rectangle in 16:9 rectangle (no
cropping).
Use exported 16:9 mpeg2 of mini-dv in HDV project.
Is there a better/easier way to do incorporate 4x3 SD footage in an SD
project this?
What's the best way to ensure maximum quality from the SD exported as
MPEG2?
Thanks!
Elliot :)

You don't shoot *in* mini-DV, you shoot *on* mini-DV. The mini-DV is a
media type (tape), which could have either standard definition or high
definition content on it. As to using standard or lower definition
content as part of a high-def project, others will have to more fully
answer that question as I have not done it (but I don't see why you
couldn't). But you are never going to *convert* that content into real HD
content even if you can convert the file types. Something about a silk
purse out of a sow's ear........
Gary T

Good points, and with that said;
In many cases home editing will involve using video
and graphic material from all kinds of sources and often
include placing material of a smaller size onto/into a
background/base video of a larger size. There are even
tricks you can use, to make it seem natural for the change
in image quality inherent in mixing SD and HD material or
due to the scaling of a smaller resolution image to a larger
size, (even further reducing its relative resolution).
When looking for/at the HD Editing packages available
you should see that they often tout their ability to have
both SD and HD on the same timeline. This is true for
the inexpensive offerings from such as Ulead and Magix,
as well as those from Adobe and Sony.
Luck;
Ken

You should also take into consideration the Resolution and format of the HD
and SD clips.
HD(HDV) 1440x1080 16x9
HD(full) 1920x1080 16x9
SD(dv) 720x540 4x3 ( 16x9 is also available)
analog 640x480 4x3
What I do is to show a 4x3 SD clip as a Window inside a 16x9 HDV clip. look
cool.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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nappy

2007-12-24 06:52:33 UTC

PTravel

2007-12-24 20:02:29 UTC

You can scale it under the Clip/Motion tab.